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	<title>Comments on: DIY Daze</title>
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	<description>some shit. by jesse von doom.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian McTear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian McTear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Exactly. I think there&#039;s a need for some innovation in music release format, and an equal amount in audience/community building. I guess the latter looks like something that Facebook and MySpace can lay claim to, yet joining these groups etc, I fear, is really a superficial sidebar for many people at best. Building an audience of music supporters,  people who see the importance of music&#039;s survival, people who consider themselves part owners in our series, people who consider themselves &quot;activists&quot; by their participation is what we&#039;re hoping to do. I hope I have the energy to pull it off!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Exactly. I think there&#8217;s a need for some innovation in music release format, and an equal amount in audience/community building. I guess the latter looks like something that Facebook and MySpace can lay claim to, yet joining these groups etc, I fear, is really a superficial sidebar for many people at best. Building an audience of music supporters,  people who see the importance of music&#8217;s survival, people who consider themselves part owners in our series, people who consider themselves &#8220;activists&#8221; by their participation is what we&#8217;re hoping to do. I hope I have the energy to pull it off!</p>
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		<title>By: jvd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah we&#039;re very much in agreement...great points all around. I&#039;m especially fond of your point about the arms race. The constant need for only new and different ideas can lead to fatigue. Like you said, I don&#039;t want to discourage innovation, but I don&#039;t think an idea should be invalidated because it worked. If an audience appreciated something and you have a similar audience, then by all means build upon previous successes. 

Also love the emphasis on a shared experience and the importance of a supportive audience that can rally around an artist. Such a key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah we&#8217;re very much in agreement&#8230;great points all around. I&#8217;m especially fond of your point about the arms race. The constant need for only new and different ideas can lead to fatigue. Like you said, I don&#8217;t want to discourage innovation, but I don&#8217;t think an idea should be invalidated because it worked. If an audience appreciated something and you have a similar audience, then by all means build upon previous successes. </p>
<p>Also love the emphasis on a shared experience and the importance of a supportive audience that can rally around an artist. Such a key.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian McTear</title>
		<link>http://whatistodaysvegetable.com/blog/2009/07/26/diy-daze/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian McTear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have the fire in you Jesse! This is great. I absolutely agree with your points listed above. 

There&#039;s a part of me that can&#039;t help lament the fact that, in the absence of a standard format, musicians have to be caught up in an &quot;arms race&quot; of promotional packaging, and being &quot;the first to do X&quot;. In other words, I believe there&#039;d be a great benefit in some segment of the industry working toward an industry standard format for delivery of music and the related arts. Not to sound like I am discouraging people doing what they can to stick out and be noticed, but what I am sensing is a mounting exhaustion with the requirement for the consumer to go look and find &quot;what&#039;s out there&quot;. 

If only there were a place and set of experiences and activities that consumers could rely on and expect. Some of this might be the release process as you&#039;ve mentioned, taking over for the product itself. THe first experience = the release. In this day and age, people rather quickly listen and move on to never return. A big problem, itself.

The other missing element, these days, is a rapidly shrinking phenomenon known as the &quot;shared experience&quot;. Even as already refined niches of consumers are broken down in greater and greater detail, there&#039;s very little that we experience together. (I really love and appreciate Kristin Hersh&#039;s  small private concert idea. To me, this puts a premium on people being together to have an experience, made more evident by the smaller crowd and therefore heightened sense of interaction.)

So I guess what I am saying is that, while it is true that artists need to perfect the execution of the perfect release in the attempt to get noticed, I hope that what I can bring to the conversation is the necessity for someone or something to round up an audience of die-hard music lovers: the kind of people driven by the desire to actively support and advance music, to experience music and the experience of music together and to see it as a matter of cultural survival that all music not &quot;die on the vine&quot;.

I can&#039;t wait to meet in person and have this conversation on Saturday!

B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have the fire in you Jesse! This is great. I absolutely agree with your points listed above. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a part of me that can&#8217;t help lament the fact that, in the absence of a standard format, musicians have to be caught up in an &#8220;arms race&#8221; of promotional packaging, and being &#8220;the first to do X&#8221;. In other words, I believe there&#8217;d be a great benefit in some segment of the industry working toward an industry standard format for delivery of music and the related arts. Not to sound like I am discouraging people doing what they can to stick out and be noticed, but what I am sensing is a mounting exhaustion with the requirement for the consumer to go look and find &#8220;what&#8217;s out there&#8221;. </p>
<p>If only there were a place and set of experiences and activities that consumers could rely on and expect. Some of this might be the release process as you&#8217;ve mentioned, taking over for the product itself. THe first experience = the release. In this day and age, people rather quickly listen and move on to never return. A big problem, itself.</p>
<p>The other missing element, these days, is a rapidly shrinking phenomenon known as the &#8220;shared experience&#8221;. Even as already refined niches of consumers are broken down in greater and greater detail, there&#8217;s very little that we experience together. (I really love and appreciate Kristin Hersh&#8217;s  small private concert idea. To me, this puts a premium on people being together to have an experience, made more evident by the smaller crowd and therefore heightened sense of interaction.)</p>
<p>So I guess what I am saying is that, while it is true that artists need to perfect the execution of the perfect release in the attempt to get noticed, I hope that what I can bring to the conversation is the necessity for someone or something to round up an audience of die-hard music lovers: the kind of people driven by the desire to actively support and advance music, to experience music and the experience of music together and to see it as a matter of cultural survival that all music not &#8220;die on the vine&#8221;.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to meet in person and have this conversation on Saturday!</p>
<p>B</p>
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